One of the more quirky things that happens at these various post-season all star games is players trading helmet stickers. I really don't ever give it much thought, it is only a all-star game. This looks fine if you play for Arizona, Iowa State or Rutgers, and your helmet is just another in the crowd. If you feel like it looks better covered with the USC, Oklahoma or Miami logos -- that is your choice. But I saw something at the recent East West Shrine Game that absolutely made my skin crawl. It took me a while to find an actual picture from the game, and today I finally did.Why in the world would anyone change the classic look of the Michigan helmet ?
Outgoing Michigan senior Morgan Trent decided to cover the distinctive Michigan winged helmet with stickers from other schools. I don't have a ton of images, because outside of the ESPN broadcast the East West Shrine game does not attract a lot of fans or photographers. From the angles that I have been able to grab, it looks like he has a logo from Georgia Tech, Florida State, Nebraska, Northwestern, Richmond (spider on top), and Georgia (left side). As if this was not bad enough, our man Morgan decided to kick every Michigan fan in the balls as he placed an Ohio State BUCKEYE "atta-boy" sticker on the front of his helmet. Ouch, that stings.
In direct contrast, fellow senior Terrance Taylor wore his Michigan helmet without any additional logos. And while I am clearly biased -- I must say his helmet was the best looking one on the field.I don't have anything personal against Morgan Trent. He is what he is. Some NFL team (please NOT the Lions) will take a shot at him because he is fast. Quite frankly, I doubt he will have much of a pro career: he really can't cover anyone, he takes horrible tackling angles, and makes bad decisions costing his team touchdowns. Trent gets another chance to showcase his skills at the Senior Bowl on Saturday in Mobile. Let's hope someone from the Michigan staff got a hold of and coached him up on this matter.
My message to any Michigan player playing in one of these Senior All-Star games: Resist the temptation to alter the best looking helmet in football. The winged Michigan helmet is one of the most distinct and recognizable helmets in the world. The brand associated with this helmet stands alone. There is nothing you can do to improve how it looks. Wear it this last time with pride.
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If only he covered WRs the way he covered that helmet..... wait he did.
Agreed! One more reason I'm glad to see him go!
it's just a helmet. seriously. just. a. helmet.
that was me above, but i deleted because my views do not represent the group as a whole and i accidentally posted under the group account.
I gave him the business from the stands in the Wisconsin game (I knw, I know, WE WON!) because he continually gave up on plays and cost us more than one TD. i believe he was one of the key members who "did not buy in" and cost us games.
Dex: I understand that it is "just a helmet". But it is OUR helmet.
In reality, the Michigan helmet is the best branding item we have as a program. There are hundreds of recruits and thousands to students over the years that have chosen Michigan, in part because of that helmet. Many people that don't know anything about college football, recognize that helmet.
Again, I am VERY biased -- but I can't think of one good reason to cover the winged helmet with anything.
Not being in the Kool-aid line, I have no problem with any sticker covering the Michigan helmet. Though your helmet is instantly recognizable, it is so in a Barney Fife type of way.
As the preacher said to the congregants who were arguing about whether or not cosmetics should be worn by church women: "For heaven's sake, if the barn needs painting--paint it!”
Cover up that ugly winged helmet!
Love,
Whetstonebuck
Ok - so your propose that Michigan be so arrogant, so conceited, so anti-fun that they somehow bar their players from wearing stickers at all-star games on their helmets, to somehow protect the "brand" in front of 20,000 lonely spectators and the 25 people bored enough to watch on TV.
You know what this sounds like? A ND fan complaining about ruining the Golden Dome helmets. I figure for someone like you that should be a pretty good insult.
@Dex
Bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch.
I don't expect the coaching staff to make it an issue at all. I would prefer the players make the right choice (like Terrance did). I know many former players that gagged when they saw what Morgan did. You can all it arrogance. I call it pride and tradition.
And yes, that was an insult. For the record, if I cared more that one second about Notre Dame, I would say the same thing about the gold helmet.
BTW: All the sudden out hit count today went thru the roof. It looks like Brian put something up titled "Boren-Trent" with a link to us -- but it is not there anymore.
Did anyone see what happened ?
@Andy
It was in a post on the side scroll at Mgoblog. Some dude linked to it.
OK. That makes sense.
It mut have said something mean - because it was pulled down. But only after it pumped about 150 hits in 10 minutes here.
Our march to 100K continues...
Some idiot made a one sentence remark about this and linked to your story, at which point it got deleted because the the topic is full of fail. So congrats on that!
As a Buckeye, I will sorely miss Morgan Trent. He contributed mightily to the Ohio State cause during The Game. He was awesome at falling for a double move and did a great job missing the initial hit after a catch, allowing Ginn, Gonzales, Holmes, Robiskie, etc to rack up the YAC.
I'm pretty sure that Coach Tressel gave him that Buckeye sticker last November - he definitely earned it.
Dex:
Congrats on what ? No one here posted the story or link. Both T9 and I have already had that "world according to Dex" lesson.
Why are you so negative all the time ? Do you even know how to type anything without coming across as a douche-bag ?
This is the second or third time you have commented here -- and each time I shake my head and wonder what your problem is.
Do us all a favor and limit your posting to MGoBlog or your precious WLA. I really don't feel like dealing with your hate opinion here. I think I have proven that I can put up with other views here, but if your sole contribution is attacks, I am not interested.
Well, what can I say, really? I'm a masochist.
Sadly, that is the funniest thing I have ever seen you post anywhere.
Like I told Jim Carty, if someone like you thinks I'm funny, I'm doing it wrong.
I guess the biggest point is if you want to cover your helmet fine, but how can you say you bought into what it means to be a Michigan Man and then place a buckeye on your most glorious, illustrious, sovereign winged crown? There's a reason Morgan helped lose five in a row and why he will be remembered for not being a great Michigan Man (or much of one at all for that matter). I don't mind that much if you really want to place a couple of logos on the helmet... but placing the symbol of your most hated rival amounts to treason in almost anyone's book. You think it would be OK to have a Swastika on an American Army helmet in WW2 or to wear the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor of the U.S. Marines on your Soviet uniform? I realize this just football, but Trent has demonstrated why exactly it is that he failed.
Sigh.
yes Whets and Sru... good work pouncing on this.
The time has come for better men.
Go away Dex. No one wants you here.
So, Buckeyes = Nazis. Well reasoned.
Regardless of what Dex says you guys bash Trent like he did nothing in comparison to the effort you've put forth. You sound like he owes you something when in fact, he doesn't. So what if he puts stickers on his helmet. Maybe he's not like TT and feels the need to go along with the crowd. Not every UM player is an iconic, glorious human. Some are just normal 22 yr olds with extraordinary skills. You act like the helmet is yours, when you yourself have put little to no physical effort into the teams, whereas Trent has spent 5 years in a program, that upon his last year flipped completely upside down. If he wants to "trash" the schools image, fine. IMO he has the right to be a little upset about how things went. He signed on for a program that was spun on it's axis before his final season. A lot of young kids may get defensive about this. Hopefully in due time he'll get wiser and come around. This, of course is assuming that he actually is miffed at the program and not just acting like many of the other kids at the Sr. Bowl, who are, you know, kids. Not everyone is Mike Hart.
Fair enough. Maybe you did not read the statement: "I don't have anything personal against Morgan Trent. He is what he is."
For the record, the helmet is mine. I am an active alumni, season ticket holder, and financial contributor to Michigan.
Now we have gathered three WLA opinions (Dex, chitownblue, and KRK).
I am looking forward to hearing from MRG, Maize4Blue, ShockFX, Musket Rebellion, Ninja Football, cfaller96, big gay heart, mjv, and
Huss.
Wow. I always figured there were Michigan fans with bad attitudes & snotty manners (ala sru). Now we have confirmation.
Yikes.
Maybe MT put the Buckeye leaf on his helmet in the spirit of Big Ten brotherhood. Sportsmanship may motivate him. Just sayin'.
At any rate, what is "WLA?"
Andy,
"He is what he is", is a pretty clear insult. Unless you mean he is a great athlete who never did anything to mis-represent the school other than put stickers on his helmet. And no, the helmet is his. They let them keep them or buy them when they are done and he has given much more than you to earn that helmet. For you to assume that the helmet is yours shows monumental levels of arrogance. I'm going to guess that you know that and will tell me you don't care, but I thought I'd let you know.
Whets,
Wolverineliberationarmy.blogspot.com
If you ever took a marxist poli sci course or watched "Dr. Zhivago", you'll be amused.
wolverine liberation army???
Wasn't that the partisan group in Red Dawn?
They were just the "Wolverines" in Red Dawn; the mascot of their HS.
When preceded by "I don't have anything personal against Morgan Trent" -- in my opinion the statement "He is what he is" is not an insult. It is about as nuetral as one can be.
For the record. I've have no issue with Morgan as a person. I do not know him at all -- I simply do not agree with his choice in this matter. I have shared my opinion. You have shared yours. They differ. Let's duel.
Hey, my only published complaint was with the poster who compared wearing a Buckeye to a Nazi Swastika. There are a number of reasons why that is inherently offensive.
I also disagree with your post, but saw no need to rehash.
I don't see anyone comparing Buckeyes to Nazis ? And by the way, that is rich coming from a blogger that has associated being a Michigan fan with the brutal soviet communist revolution.
It looks to me that Shorty compared what Morgan Trent did to "treason". He asked if it would be ok for an WWII American GI to place a Swastika on his uniform. In the context of college football, wearing a buckeye leaf on your winged helmet, I understood the purposely outrageous comparison.
I think that most here got it too -- well at least those not looking to start a battle.
"I understood the purposely outrageous comparison."
The operative phrase: "purposely outrageous." If nothing else, it was that.
Morgan Trent was quite the cancer on the team and lord knows he was the worst player on that D. Obviously his plight from rising star at CB to an anemic failure was completely his fault and can not be contributed to a new staff with new schemes. He is a horrible representative of the university and I, a true Michigan Man, am well within my rights to call him that.
Sincerly,
An Asshole
Also Andy,
Don't say that no one made comparisons to Nazi's and then finish your comment justifying why someone made said comparison. You kind of contradict yourself.
I'm willing to bet he got a sticker from a player on each of those teams, and the helmet is the only thing he could put them all on and keep. They probably wouldn't stick on his jersey, and he's probably going to keep his helmet from that game and put it in a glass case.
That's Morgan Trent's helmet. He was having fun in an quasi all-star game and can do what he wants. It's like trading Olympic pins or something.
"For the record, the helmet is mine. I am an active alumni, season ticket holder, and financial contributor to Michigan."
No, no, and no. You have no more ownership in the helmet than you do in picking the next coach. You can argue that the helmet represents you, but guess what, without the players that made it so symbolic it wouldn't mean anything. That's why the helmet belongs to them, not you. You never bled on a football field, you never got up and had 2 a day practices in 90degree summer days, you never faced adversity with your football team, and I'm DAMN certain you've never been in the position of a 21 year old on Sportscenter being embarassed by NFL caliber receivers.
You've earned nothing; as such, you get nothing.
Excellent. We now have 4 opinions from the WLA on this topic.
Come on guys, aren't there any more of your out there to tell me what I should and should not think ??? I am still waiting to hear from MRG, Maize4Blue, Musket Rebellion, Ninja Football, cfaller96, big gay heart, mjv, and Huss.
I guess it is true what they say about "Big Brother"... I am astounded that these guys know so much about me they can confidently say I have not "earned" something -- even if that is my own opinion on my own blog.
This isn't my opinion as a WLA member. This is my opinion as an individual and as a rational human being that does not let the choices of athletes my own age dictate my personal self-worth.
You, on the other hand, completely ignored my argument and just played the "count the WLA members that have objected to my idiotic post" game. I'm not telling you what you should think, I'm just ridiculing you for being a complete idiot lest some impressionable person start to share in your beliefs.
You have every right to post whatever the hell you want. I have every right to point out how pathetic it is.
to add to sru's post...these days it seems like OSU fans are sad to see UM players leave....while UM fans celebrate when OSU players leave
Andy,
FWIW-i don't see such a big deal over the kid collecting stickers.
on the other hand, i can see why you (and others) wouldn't like it.
and i can't for the life of me see what is the problem so many of these commenters seem to have.
maybe they're all related to him?
WOW KRK and especially you Chitownblue,
I laughed when I first read your post and saw that you were a UM fan, as I thought "No one is really that stupid to actually draw that conclusion from my remarks." I thought you were making that outrageous statement for a laugh until I read your follow up.
Read again... as it appears your miniscule, feeble minds need at least one more go around with the Nazi statement.
"I don't mind that much if you really want to place a couple of logos on the helmet... but placing the symbol of your most hated rival amounts to treason in almost anyone's book. You think it would be OK to have a Swastika on an American Army helmet in WW2 or to wear the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor of the U.S. Marines on your Soviet uniform? I realize this just football, but Trent has demonstrated why exactly it is that he failed."
If you're saying that I'm comparing buckeyes to Nazis THAN WHAT THE FUCK AM I COMPARING U.S. MARINES TOO? There is one terrible crime from the western point of view and one terrible crime (that hopefully we as Americans see as recognizing greatness) from the Communist point of view. I chose two symbols to compare the buckeye leaf to, one associated with horror and one with liberty/the warriors for freedom and democracy (and for a comparison my mind naturally went to war as that is my profession and an easy source to find a symbol associated with absolute good and evil w/out being offensively inclusive of religion), so as to give an unbiased viewpoint of the concept of treason from any angle. I then went on to recognize that this "is just football" but expressed my feelings that Trent's attitude, that this is just a game, is the reason that he contributed to UM's failures the past five years. Trent is probably a nice guy and not at all mad at UM and just thought that it was "no big deal" to put the buckeye on his helmet.It is just a game, but it was because of Tuos's attitude that it is more and means more in such a special way that they were able to out spirit and defeat UM for the past 5 years (last year's was about one superior team dominating, while the other four it could be argued came down to the intangibles of wanting it more (induced by making it mean more to you)). That's why you hear stories of the '69 game and UM wearing 50 on all their helmets the week before to let them know that it means more and needs to mean more to you come game time, and why in '70 Woody put a doormat right outside the Tuos locker room leading to the practice field that had the score of the '69 game on it so as to remind his players every time they went to practice what that game meant and what this game, this rivalry should mean to them.
Next time you want to mock me and draw the conclusion that I'm comparing someone to Nazis or something of the sort after such a lengthy, unbiased argument, just shout your incomprehensible douche bag of a conclusion in the mirror and go fuck off somewhere else.
I don't know you and you may be a decent and good intentioned person in real life, but if you want to take me out of context and then slander my remarks, then you're going to irk me in a seriously wrong way, and you're fucking with the wrong man. I am a man of absolute integrity and will not tolerate being treated that way by someone who wouldn't dare say that to my face. I know about intangibles, war, and the difference between the latter and football... I've done both being a U.S. Marine volunteering and serving during wartime, so don't fucking play like I'm some ignorant douche posting anonymous hatred. I deserve more than that from whomever you may be. I like to playfully hate on the Bucks and would gladly call them all Nazis, but only to good buckeye friends and in a completely outlandish and joking manner... people know I'm a light-hearted guy and love a good laugh (even one at my own expense).
If you truly feel that is what I said and meant and that what you did is no big deal than you truly need to remove yourself from the forum.
Like I said, you could be a wonderful person, and who knows, we may even be friends in some manner in the future, but for now...
You sir, are an ass.
And that goes for any other genius that was able to draw that brilliant conclusion that only someone as bright as Hitler, Heydrich and the gang would truly be proud of.
actually, living in Columbus for now 19 years, i didn't think the "nazis=buckeyes" was all that far off.
the alumni association down here usually conducts itself like a resistance cell- secret meetings, passwords, and the rest of the "Casablanca" motiff, all meant to avoid detection and incarceration by the ruling regime.
frankly, Tre$$el would make a pretty good Major Strausser now that i think of it...
Sic,
I truly agree with your statement 100%. I am more in Andy's camp, though just for Buckeye and Sparty stickers as there is no Domer sticker. I can see both sides and am fine with both... I personally don't like a losing effort from anyone that is followed with the sporting of the vanquisher's paraphernalia when it is an idea that I as well embrace. It's like smearing the image of love or something that one holds dear as we all here most likely do (or else we wouldn't constantly be on this board). In the '90s I wouldn't have liked it any more, but seeing Woodson wear a buckeye leaf would've sat better with me as I saw him make the effort in each game to do what it takes when it is time to be serious... and be able to have some fun when it is time to have fun. The serious work has to be taken care of first in my book, before one can start goofing around. And I LOVE goofing around. Seriously, I do it all the time.
Damn Sic you just posted again... I meant the statement about seeing it from both points of view.
dude, you wouldn't need to live in Columbus very long before you came around on the other one, either!
oh my fucking g-d you boys are RICH!
here's the damned point.
fuck dragon flame commence.....
The Michigan Winged Helmet is, in fact, a sacred icon of the football team. IF one has pride in one's alma mater and one's team you DON'T trash it up by putting other stickers on it.
PERIOD.
I would think that members of the football team who DO have reverence and respect for said helmet would also be offended by Trent's Treason. (and yes, I agree with Shorty, it's like treason or blasphemy or disrespect or disdain to sully the helmet with foreign stickers.)
He's the FIRST player in these honorary games to ever do such a thing. Perhaps there is a reason why others before him DID NOT FOLLOW ALONG with the other All-Stars. Probably because they KNEW BETTER.
Why did you all get sooooo worked up about Sparty planting the flag in the middle of the field??? SAME DAMNED REASON--you don't disrespect an emblem of the team or your school.
Seems pretty fucking simple to me.
w/r/t dex and the comrades from the WLA....
a) Andy ya shoulda never taken the bait. It's like the Taco Bell at Central and now I'm gonna lose a tooth over it.... ;-)
b) thanks to those from the WLA who commented and flamed the responses. You guys lurk and lurk and then decide to jump in on this one? Really? Seriously? I thought we were all on the same side here. Michigan Fans? or Competitive Mudslingers? { settle down schwetty--I will NOT mud wrestle these unicorn lovers } I can't tell what side you fall on. There's plenty of room for all of us and in fact we might actually benefit from one another's creativity. (Andy and I disagree on this point to be sure). I think some of your dickishness is clever. But I hesitate to even engage you guys because this is the type of 'dialogue' that ensues. You are no fun. Just mean spirited and sanctimonious in the way you engage others who aren't in the club. I dealt with that mean shit in high school from bitchy girls with big hair. I don't need it here.
c) Despite trying and lurking a bit on your site too--I TOTALLY don't get you guys over at the WLA. I agree with your underlying premise that these are kids playing the game and we aren't, and that people get all bent and say stupid shit about them etc. HOWEVER those of us who went to the University still represent the University and expect others engaged with the University to do the same. This is a matter of pride, tradition, respect, collective ownership, and the ethos of Michigan.
Was it funny when someone cut the glasses off of JoePa's statue?? To some yes, but to many others, it's defamatory.
Do I avoid wearing the color green or wearing scarlet and grey together? Damn straight.
Does my boss own ONLY maize and blue ties? yup.
Why? Because we are fucking insane about Michigan and the nostalgia and the tradition.
Putting stickers on the Michigan Helmet is libelous and denigratory and Andy (and by extension I) called Trent out on it.
I have no problem with your disagreement. We can absolutely discuss whether it's "just a helmet". Clearly our take is that it ISN'T JUST a helmet. What I do think is completely inane (and what has set the fuck dragon aflame) is the way the comments have degenerated into a personalized tit for tat.
Enough. Mom says go to your rooms.
I am an arrogant fan of the University of Michigan. AGREED. And tough shit.
You don't step on the M in the Diag--not because you will fail your first blue book, but because IT'S THE M. Show some respect.
(Fuck Dragon OFF)
Perhaps this is a generational issue? Andy and I (and many faithful readers here) are post-baby boomers. We believe in the team, and nostalgia, and deference to something bigger than ourselves. Younger readers are more individualistic and less likely to ascribe to blind allegiance. Their ethos is about what they do and what they get (hence the argument it's his helmet and he can do with it what he wants). That's why our position makes no sense to you.
But at some point, you have to respect the collective nature of the group to which one belongs. The helmet is an icon, a branded emblem of the University. To mar it is NOT cool.
Plus, from a practical standpoint---all those damned stickers just CLASH with the wings. ick.
OK
SO
Party's over folks.
Nothing to see here anymore.
Move along.
Find something else to piss about in our subsequent posts.
And--thanks for driving the numbers up.
I'm with ya all the way bud... it is one of the great shames of my life that a couple of good friends I made in the Corps also happened to be (gulp) (mumble) buckeye fans. My best mate went to Pickerington (the school of the Boren bros.) and two others were from Cincy.
I've met several bucks in the Corps and no joke... high ranking senior foreign service men and women who are Michigan grads... the Charge' D'Affaires (temp ambassador who is also a former ambassador and will be full time again if he wants) in Paris is a Michigan Man and was at the Northwestern debacle last year (rich UM grads fly thousands of miles to catch games every year). They tell me stories of grandeur as I have not actually been to a UM game in person... just in spirit.
oh--
and for the record Shorty
thanks for your service.
keep your head down mate
DAMN FUCK DRAGON!!!! Git'em!!!!
T9,
You're a badass... RAWR!!! (Austin Powers playful hand/paw scratch)
T9 & the rest of the regular Spawn Crowd:
Don't feed the WLA trolls. This is just one of their schticks. It is all a game. They actually plan these type of attacks to have fun, you will have to scroll all the way down to 01.22.09 - 4:19:07 p.m. EST.
Laugh at them and move on. I won't give them a link, but I guess I am now "Billy".
To be honest, I don't think any of us lurk here. The post was linked from mgo so we saw it.
This:
Putting stickers on the Michigan Helmet is libelous and denigratory and Andy (and by extension I) called Trent out on it.
Is where we will disagree eternally. Terrance Taylor could have stopped him. His teammates could have raised the issue with him. Ignoring the fact that you are not the arbiters of whether or not it is 'libelous and denigratory' (I think you meant degrading, as libelous, even defined loosely, means untrue with intent to harm a reputation), it's ridiculous to consider a senior Michigan player in a quasi-allstar game to be a disgrace because of stickers he put on his helmet.
"Their ethos is about what they do and what they get (hence the argument it's his helmet and he can do with it what he wants)."
No, simply we refuse to allow the actions of people we can't control to affect us. There is a difference between the University of Michigan as a collective and the Michigan football team. The block M is the symbol for the university, something you're a part of. The winged helmets are a symbol for the football team, something you're not at all a part of. Get the difference?
ShockFX,
Good post, good post... (rubbing my chin in deep thought).
Your mom wears army boots
Doesn't change my feelings... but well thought out good sir.
1st:
Whet,
All I said about your post and Nazi's was in reference to Andy's comment. So back off unless I actually criticize it.
Everyone else,
They are fucking stickers and they can be removed. What if he put them on for the game and then took them off so he could save his helmet? Oh my god. He could do that. I realize to some of you that doing that is like pissing on the bible and then taking your piss remover and making it all better. But to us in "reality" its a harmless gesture towards guys that he spent a week or two hanging out with, practicing and having a common respect for out of the effort that they have put in for 4+ years. But you know what, he should have said publicly "fuck anyone else's helmet" that would help the Michigan image.
There are a lot of comments on this post... here is another
KRK,
"1st:
Whet,
All I said about your post and Nazi's was in reference to Andy's comment. So back off unless I actually criticize it."
You must have me confused with someone else. Therefore, I'll assume you made an error in the heat of battle and accept your apology in advance.
If that's not the case then I am confused as to your intention.
A few things, and I will leave, forever.
1. I really don't post places as "part of the WLA" or whatever. If I see something, and have a comment, I post. The screen name is the same. Whatevs.
2. I don't "lurk" or "troll" here. The last time I viewed this site is when you took a video we produced and made, and put it on your site without a link to us. That was 5 months ago.
3. Shorty - I read your response, and feel like I was looking at a funhouse mirror. I didn't really make an attempt to "mock" you. My point is that bringing Nazis or war into a conversation about stickers on a helmet is inflammatory. My whole problem with this post is that it's making a mountain of a molehill. Even saying the word "swastika" merely piles it higher. To be honest, what I found the most offensive was your suggestion that Trent wasn't "a great Michigan man (or much of one for that matter". I don't see this as a testament to his character. I just can't see that here.
4. Andy - you aren't "Billy". Well, you're like 1/4 of him. You aren't the only site that wrote of this issue in a way I disagreed.
5. Finally, it's clear from Title IX's post that we see U of M football in completely different ways. I love the team, obviously, I sprend an inordinate amount of time reading and writing about utter minutae. But refusing to wear certain colors, your view of the helmet - I just don't get it. I'm not saying it's wrong, I just utterly don't understand it.
That said, Andy, my problem is this:
Trent did something. You wrote a post criticizing his action and, in my reading (though you deny it), called his basic character into question. It's your blog, it's your right.
Then, when people disagree with your action, and criticize it, you get clearly upset.
If you have the right to criticize Trent in a public forum (which you do), then shouldn't you have slightly thicker skin about any disagreement that critique causes?
is the WLA anything like the Judean People's Front? or is that the People's Front of Judea?
Whet,
Complete apologies. That was Shorty. Glad you took that in advance.
Yes. Now you must spray graffiti on the Mayor's wall. Go.
Chi
1. The video that was posted that the fall absolutely did have a link to WLA. T9 and I were just getting started. At the time you guys responded the you did not like being called "spawners". Fair enough. It was removed.
2. At no point in my post about Morgan Trent did I ever call his character into question. I don't know Morgan Trent from the guy standing on the street corner. I don't think that he made the right choice regarding helmet stickers. That is my opinion. I said nothing about Morgan's character in the post or in the comments.
3. I can live with others with alternative views. We have plenty of buckeye posters here. Attacking me because you do not agree with my opinion is what I have a problem with.
KRK,
You were not the originator of his comments, but I felt like you justified them. If you feel like he did, then my response is at the bottom of that reply post. If you don't feel like Chitown about the analogy than I sincerely apologize for including you (note the especially in front of Chitown as I did notice that he was the soul originator).
Chitown douche/genius-
being a Michigan Man has not only to do with character, but the feelings you have towards the University as well. Just take a look at the '89 mens bball team. The coach may have had good character, but he wanted a new school and thus was not a good Michigan Man... that's why Bo canned his ass.
To add to your genius entitlement to own the opinion thing, what effort did you put into the whole Morgan Trent phenomena that you have to feel offended on his behalf? Are you Morgan Trent... if so than that explains a lot as you spend way too much time writing about trash rather than doing something useful. Like I said I have nothing against him as a person, I don't know him. As for the way he represented on the field, his helmet at the Shrine game summed up a lot of what his play showed he was about.
Go "sprend" an inordinate amount of time reading and writing about bulltrash somewhere else from your mother's basement.
P.S. T9, I also make sure to never wear red and grey together.
slapfight hmmmmm?
glad we provided you all with some entertainment.
you can go back to beating yourselves off now.
DENIGRATORY: to attack the reputation of, to deny the importance or validity of
LURK: to follow a discussion on a board without ever posting
and finally, I'm not 11.
I'm rubber your glue, I know you are but what am I, your mother, oh and since I'm not in fifth grade anymore I can't remember the rest of them. But happy to utilize your brilliant tactics for the sake of playing evenly.
Don't come over here and start a BITCH fight with me. You WILL lose. I am the best bitch of all.
This is no longer about ideas and how people express opinions on blogs or what two adults with a love for all things Michigan do when they aren't actually working and contributing to society. This has become personal between a few and me. You are ruining my fun and I don't take too kindly to it.
Now I'M going to work. YOU should help your mom clean the kitchen.
c'est tu
"Don't come over here and start a BITCH fight with me. You WILL lose. I am the best bitch of all."
T-9,
I love it when you speak seductively. Remember: I'm your huckleberry.
ah schwetty---
you can't handle the truth ;-)
Why does the WLA involve them selves with every opinion about Michigan Football? They and their (funny?) blog should keep to themselves.
Hey that was a nice game, i enjoyed it alot...
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